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قديم 03-06-2010, 03:44PM
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افتراضي Saleh-Al-AlShaykh on Praying for the Absolute Destruction of Jews & Christians

āliĀli-Shaykh on Praying for the Absolute Destruction of Jews & Christians




Translator: Harrison








āliĀli-Shaykh on Praying for the Absolute
Destruction of Jews & Christians





Question:

We have read a verdict from you published in “al-Da’wah” magazine that one should not pray for the overall destruction of Jews and Christians. Hearing this, we were confused by the seemingly contrasting supplication of prophet Nūh (Noah, peace be upon him ). We hope you will explain this verdict of yours with the evidence.



Answer:

This is similar to the question that was asked when I visited al-Da’wah Publications that publishes “al-Da’wah” magazine. I have mentioned many times in the past that doing such a thing is not in accordance with the fundamentals of our belief and creed. The supplication for the overall destruction of nonbelievers was specific to prophet Nūh (Noah, peace be upon him ). The messengers after him did not pray inclusively for absolute destruction of all nonbelievers. Allah (The Almighty ) said


﴿وَقَالَ نُوحٌ رَّبِّ لَا تَذَرْ عَلَى الْأَرْضِ مِنَ الْكَافِرِينَ دَيَّارًا﴾




And Nūh said, “My Lord, do not leave upon the earth a single one of the disbelievers.”

[Sūrah Nūh, 71:26]




Yet, an angel said to prophet Muhammad ( sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) (after being rejected and persecuted by his people), “If you want, I will crush the two mountains upon the people of Makkah.” The prophet ( sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) replied saying





بَلْ أَرْجُو أَنْ يُخْرِجَ اللهُ مِنْ أَصْلَابِهِمْ مَنْ يَعْبُدُ اللهَ وَ لَا يُشْرِكُ بِهِ شَيْئًا




No, I hope Allah will bring out from their progeny people who’ll worship Allah alone ascribing no partner to Him.”



The prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) also once condemned some of the foremost and harshestof the leaders of disbelief, so the following verse was revealed to him, as is mentioned in“Kitāb al-Tawīd”, Allah revealed




﴿لَيْسَ لَكَ مِنَ الْأَمْرِ شَيْءٌ أَوْ يَتُوبَ عَلَيْهِمْ أَوْ يُعَذِّبَهُمْ فَإِنَّهُمْ ظَالِمُونَ﴾




You have nothing to do with the decision, whether He pardons them or punishes them. Indeed, they are the transgressors.



[Sūrah Āli-‘Imrān, 3:128]





The guidance of the prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) and his companions regarding their supplications against nonbelievers is that they would only pray specifically against the transgressors and unjust among them, the oppressors, or those who openly wage war against Islam and its people. This is also illustrated in the supplication of ‘Umar when he was in prayer





Oh Allah, deal with the disbelievers from the People of the Book that hinder others from Your religion and that fight Your righteous servants.”









As for praying against all Jews and Christians for their overall extermination, this is notpermissible in Islam. It is a form of going to extremes in supplication. This is becauseAllah has already informed us that the Jews and Christians will remain until theappearance of the Anti-Christ (al-Masīḥ al-Dajjāl) towards the end of time. So, if someoneprays to Allah for Him to remove all of them now before the Anti-Christ appears, then thisis a contradiction and a form of objection to what Allah has already decreed with Hiswisdom and capability in that He will make them remain until the end of time. For this, ithas never been narrated from anyone of the Salaf, or from the major scholars of Islamthat they supplicated with an overall prayer against the Jews and Christians. Instead,they would supplicate with a specific prayer only against those who fight, wage war, orharm the believers____________________
This fatwá was taken from a book called “al-Fatāwá al-Shar’iyyah fī al-Qadhāyá Al-‘Asriyyah,” a




collection of various rulings by Muhammad Ibn Fahd al-usayn.





Recorded by al-Bukhārī (no. 3231) and Muslim (1795) from the adīth of ‘Āishah, may Allah be
pleased with her.
Taken from the cassette: Asbāb al-Thabāt ‘alá al-Dīn




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قديم 16-06-2010, 04:34PM
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assalam alaykoum wa rahmat Allah wa barakétouh


Please check this link, you will find the proof that the People who were meant in “If you want, I will crush the two mountains upon the people of Ta'if.” are of Makkah and not of Ta'if

Baraka Allah fikoum




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قديم 17-06-2010, 07:30AM
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wa aleykum assalam wa rahmatullah
baraka Allahu fiki
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قال بديع الزمان الهمذاني في وصف العلم:
« العلم شيء بعيد المرام، Not يُصاد بالسهام، وNot يُقسم بالأزNotم، وNot يُرى في الFromام، وNot يُضبط باللجام، وNot يُكتب للثام، وNot يورث عن الآباء والأعمام وزرع Not يزكو إNot متى صادف From الحزم ثرى طيبا، وFrom التوفيق مطرا صيبا، وFrom الطبع جوا صافيا، وFrom الجهد روحا دائما، وFrom الصبر سقيا نافعا وغرض Not يصاب إNot بافتراش المدر، واستناد الحجر، وردّ الضجر، وركوب الخطر، وإدمان السهر، واصطحاب السفر، وكثرة النظر، وإعمال الفكر»

[«جواهر الأدب» للهاشمي (194)]

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قديم 17-06-2010, 09:48AM
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اقتباس:
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assalam alaykoum wa rahmat Allah wa barakétouh






Please check this link, you will find the proof that the People who were meant in “If you want, I will crush the two mountains upon the people of Ta'if.” are of Makkah and not of Ta'if

Baraka Allah fikoum




I believe you're right, and I read in Fathul Bari that the two mountains mentioned in the Hadeeth are Makkah mountains and Ibn Hajar named them : one is called (Abu-Qubais) and the other is either (Qua'iqia'an) or (Aljabal Alahmar i.e The Red Mountain).
and Allah knows best.
jazakum Allah Khairan for the new fa'idah.
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قديم 17-06-2010, 02:49PM
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one is called (Abu-Qubais) and the other is either (Qua'iqia'an) or (Aljabal Alahmar i.e The Red Mountain).
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Salam alaykum wa rahmat Allah wa baraketuh


it is not "either/or", but "and"... the other mountain is called (Qua'iyqi'an) and also can be called (The Red Mountain); and I remember this so clearly because it was mentioned in Ali Ben Yahiya Hedady's lecture about "aseera anabawiya". He said, and I quote from lesson n°2:


"ثمّ إنّ الله -عَزَّ وَجَلّ- أرسل إليه مَلَكَ الجبال يستأذنه بأن يُطبِقَ عليهم الأخْشَبَين -والأخشبان جبNotن بمكّة يكتنفان البيت, أحدهما يُقال له أبو قُبيس والLast يُقال له قُعَيْقِعَان، ويُقال الجبل الأحمر- فأبى النبيّ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ ذلك و قال ((بَلْ أَسْتَأْني بهِم)) يعني أنتظر ((لَعَلَّ الله أَنْ يُخْرِجَ مِنْ أَصْNotَبهِم مَنْ يَعْبُدُ الله وَNotَ يُشرِكُ بِهِ شَيْئًا))"


and now since this misunderstanding is clear, alhamdulillah, can anyone correct the original text please


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“If you want, I will crush the two mountains upon the people of Ta'if.”

and Baraka Allah fikoum

Salam Alaykum wa Rahmat Allah wa Baraketuh
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قديم 17-06-2010, 04:00PM
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Apparently they are two different mountains, I mean (Qua'ayqi'an) and (The Red mountain) …

AlQadi Iadh said In his book (mashariq Alanwar 1/57) :
....جبNot مكة أحدهما أبو قبيس والLast الجبل الأحمر المشرف على قعيقعان...
(… one of them is Abu-Qubais and the other is The Red Mountain which looks onto (or faces) Qua'ayqi'an …)

Also Al-Hafith Ibn Hajar in Fathul-Bari narrated the same thing from Al-Saghani..


قَوْلُهُ : ( الْأَخْشَبَيْنِ ) بِالْمُعْجَمَتَيْنِ هُمَا جَبَلَا مَكَّة أَبُو قُبَيْسٍ وَالَّذِي يُقَابِلهُ وَكَأَنَّهُ قُعَيْقِعَان ، وَمَالَ الصَّغَانِيّ بَلْ هُوَ الْجَبَل الْأَحْمَر الَّذِي يُشْرِف عَلَى قُعَيْقِعَان
Open الباري(6/316)

And Allah knows best.

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قديم 17-06-2010, 04:17PM
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i didn't know this before, i always thought they are the same.
i am reading about it now
Baraka Allah fikoum for this new information
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